Soooo, if it's 3 years in the future, how are Ana-Lucia & Libby alive?

Sounds like SOMEONE had to jump back into the past and stop what Michael did, right???

Or do we just chalk this up to a Hurley hallucination? Kinda funny that in his last "hallucination" he was playing chess with Mr. Eko - another Tailie.....

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not alive - she said if she was real - so just another dead person that Hurley is seeing just like Charlie last season

hurley's ghosties! he looked in his rearview mirror and there was no squad car. ana-lucia is part of the island trying to get him to go back.

Right, they are very much NOT alive. Made me kind of sad that AL would say that flippantly about Libby to Hurley.

Still, I thought she'd lost some of her angry edge. Dead is apparently working for her!

Dead is apparently working for her!

:rotflmao2: That's a good one, bunny!

Death apparently agrees with her ..... ;)

yeah, she's definitely not "alive" in the truest sense of the word. however, as i've discussed with other fans about Charlie in particular, it might not be that she's purely a hallucination but instead a weird sort of soul-portrayal bounced around in existence for some purpose. i did find it odd, though, that she called Hurley "bro", which didn't ring true to how our dear Ana Lulu was known to have talked in the past but sounds far more like a natural Hurley-ism.

Still, I thought she'd lost some of her angry edge. Dead is apparently working for her!

Totally agree! I loved the scene and it did a lot toward making her a little more likeable in my eyes even if she was part of Hurley's hallucination. It helped save him and Sayid for a while.

My thought on this sighting of Ana and Charle earlier is that they have some how become Guides. The thing is only someone who is "sensative" to these souls can see and hear them. We know Hurley feels things more deeply then others and so that may be why he is seeing them when no one else is. He hasn't completely lost that sense of wonder about the world around him like the others have.

Yeah, she's like Charlie -- dead in the corporeal sense, but alive in a spiritual sense. Maybe Hurley can see her (and Charlie, etc.) because his mental state leaves him open to such things, whereas so-called healthier people are closed off to them.

I wonder what will happen since Hurley didn't follow Ana Lucia's instructions- he got himself arrested! Oops!

When Hurley saw Ana Lucia, I thought, okay, he's still looney tunes. But maybe he really is seeing these ghosts which are trying to help him because he always seems to mess things up. Wonder if we will see more ghosts pop up this season?

Can't remember if this was a topic from last season, but thought I would bring it up.

I think they're very real to him. However, when he looks in the rear view mirror after AL walks off, there's no cop car so I think they're all trying to help him.

When Hurley saw Ana Lucia, I thought, okay, he's still looney tunes. But maybe he really is seeing these ghosts which are trying to help him because he always seems to mess things up. Wonder if we will see more ghosts pop up this season?

Can't remember if this was a topic from last season, but thought I would bring it up.

I'm pretty sure they're ghosts. I'm hoping more pop up but we could also see some of our dead friends on the Island with the whole time travel thing.

Both.



Perhaps insanity predisposes people to have genuine visionary experiences.



But "sanity/insanity" is all a language game, anyways...

How are the parameters set for what constitutes sanity? Why? It's really somewhat arbitrary. Where is the line?

Who sets those parameters? Doesn't it benefit the self-interest of those who set those parameters for insanity (and other psychological illness) to be a "real" thing, and as widespread as possible?

Should that make us suspicious of those people and the claims they make?

Haha... anyhow... that last part was relatively off topic.... Carry on. :)

he's not crazy....he is special....like Ben and Locke and Aaron (somehow right?) and now we know Desmond is special as well. Hurley is special, he is seeing manifestations of the island for some reason. lets trust him.

The Lost writers have used Stephen King's The Stand to draw from for much of their plot. From my understanding (I've read only a portion of the book), the characters have seen visions of dead people.

Here's a list of the characters who've seen things:

Jack has seen his father, but denies it's real.
Kate has seen a horse she assumes is the father she killed.
Locke has seen Boone in a dream.
Michael has seen Libby giving him blankets in a dream
...and Hurley has seen Charlie, Eko, and Ana-Lucia.

It seems pretty rational to at least say the characters are seeing visions of dead characters or actually the spirit/soul of them.

Miles can apparently talk to the dead. We know that Hurley has always seen Dave. How do we know that Dave wasn't someone Hurley knew that died? So I think that Hurley is special. After all he did see the special Jacob Cabin.

all of the people that Hurley, or anybody else sees for that matter...are manifestations of the island

Right after Hurley sees AnnaLucia he goes into the convience store to buy the shirt and in the background is playing Cheap Trick's "Dream Police"! I'm sure this was a refernce to her. She's as dead as anyone on Lost can be.

Wondering if Hurley seeing them doesn't have something to do with the island and the rest are jumping through time. Other than Dave, Hurley really didn't see anyone until them getting off the island and the island becoming unstuck in time.

Just a random thought I had.

The Lost writers have used Stephen King's The Stand to draw from for much of their plot. From my understanding (I've read only a portion of the book), the characters have seen visions of dead people.

Here's a list of the characters who've seen things:

Jack has seen his father, but denies it's real.
Kate has seen a horse she assumes is the father she killed.
Locke has seen Boone in a dream.
Michael has seen Libby giving him blankets in a dream
...and Hurley has seen Charlie, Eko, and Ana-Lucia.

It seems pretty rational to at least say the characters are seeing visions of dead characters or actually the spirit/soul of them.

The characters in The Stand do receive visions but not of dead people.

i think Hurley and Miles have alot in common

The characters in The Stand do receive visions but not of dead people.
Hmmm. Actually the only person I remember seeing dead people in The Stand was Tom. His friend Nick, who's death was a crushing blow for the good guys, would appear to Tom and direct him to do things that helped save the day.

Here's the link. Tom was retarded, so it wasn't like anyone would believe that Nick was appearing to him. Hurley is crazy...

Edit:
Errr. should I spoiler font for a 25 year old novel?

Sawyer saw the horse too

I say they are real, not ghosts. Not alive, but not ghosts either,hmmmm!!

I have never thought Hurley was "crazy." He does seem to be "selected" by the mysteries, though. Usually what he says is true - and if he thinks their troubles came about (in part at least) because of the cover-up, I believe him.

That was a really moving scene with Mrs. Reyes, too, when she said, "I believe you."

Are the vision of Ana Lucia and Ben onthe same side? Ana Lucia told Hurley not to get arrested..... will this need more course correction?

hugo isnt crazy, the "ghosts" that he is seeing can sense his incredible guilt for lying about the crash and his need to get back to the island. The ghosts are there to help him with his quest and give him guidance to get back to the island.

Are the vision of Ana Lucia and Ben onthe same side? Ana Lucia told Hurley not to get arrested..... will this need more course correction?

it seems to me all the ghosts (or whatever they are, truly) are on the side of the island ... since what did Jack's father have to do w/it before his death; now he is speaking for Jacob in the cabin ...

No, she's not alive. She appeared to him the same way Eko appeared to Hurley.

I liked the little in-joke when she warns Hurley not to get arrested, obviously a facetious reference to the conspiracy theories surrounding Michelle Rodriguez's departure from the show.

It was nice to see Ana Lucia again, but I don't seem to recall Ana ever interacting with Hurley while they were on the island together.

I liked the little in-joke when she warns Hurley not to get arrested, obviously a facetious reference to the conspiracy theories surrounding Michelle Rodriguez's departure from the show.

I don't think that was much of an in-joke. She really didn't want Hurley to get arrested. If Hurley gets arrested he's not much help to Sayid or the Island.

according to Lostlocke...

I say they are real, not ghosts. Not alive, but not ghosts either,hmmmm!!

Good call, I have to agree that all of the visions that have been seen on and off the Island are real from Christian, Boone and Yemi and Libby and Anna Lucia. For that matter Horace was also real. I think that somehow the dead from the Island are able to communicate with each other and with certain living individuals. Perhaps when Juliet ran into Harper (I think she is dead) last season she too was a vision, that might explain how she got away so quickly. I think that this might also explain the whispers.

It was nice to see Ana Lucia again, but I don't seem to recall Ana ever interacting with Hurley while they were on the island together.

Your right, they never got any scenes together on the Island. Well this made up for it now. I kinda wished Ana had appeared to Sayid, I half expecting Sayid to wake up and see her. lol

Yep, death becomes her! :biggrin: I thought it was great to have Ana-Lucia there. And I thought the "don't get arrested" comment was a **wink-wink** moment to the audience also. All the bits of comical relief throughout the eppy. were well-placed and perfectly-timed, imo. Hurley needs to practice his aim with the hot-pockets though!;)

What I'd like to see, is Ana-Lucia talking to Jack in 2007. They seemed to have a connection but we never got to see it play out.

It was nice to see Ana Lucia again, but I don't seem to recall Ana ever interacting with Hurley while they were on the island together.

I also agree. If Libby appeared to Hurley, it would make more sense. But, how would Libby warn him about a cop? I guess they needed Ana to tell him, because she was the only one that could make his car stop.

Yay Ana! so much nicer a person dead that she ever appeared in life. Don't envy her her task though.

Way to get arrested dude! :rolleyes: lol - So, should we hope those that got Hurley are or aren't real cops?

I say they are real, not ghosts. Not alive, but not ghosts either,hmmmm!!

This is what I think also, because I am reminded that Charlie told him "I am dead, but I'm also here." Not exactly sure what to make of Yemi (because he said to Eko "You speak to me as if I were your brother") or Walt (because he wasnt actually dead when Shannon and Locke saw him, making those visions more the island itself speaking). A part of me believes that Charlie and Ana Lucia are still (sort of) themselves and not simply an apparition in their guise that is controlled by the island. Or at least not just that. Same would be true of Christian, maybe even of Yemi, because perhaps he was simply trying to tell Eko I'm no longer just your brother (ie, I can see the bigger picture). Maybe they are just the island itself, but I like to think there's a little more to it than that.

At any rate, I did not view Ana Lucia's remark that Libby said "Hi" to be a flippant one said by the island, but rather, a heartfelt one that Libby actually said to Ana Lucia. I also dont believe Hurley to be crazy. He's seeing things that wouldnt seem to be mere psychoses of some sort, but would be called crazy by most anyone.