Hello all, it's been well over a year since I've been to The Lage, and I cannot believe there are only 4 pages of threads for a season premiere!!!! Has everyone moved on to other shows, or is there a better LOST site around?

Anyway, in the beginning of the premiere Dr. Candlewax emplores the foreman not to drill another centimeter or else they'd all be blown to bits. This would indicate that 1cm of rock is sufficient to house/harness a source of limitless energy. Haha, ya right!

I don't think it was the size of the rock, but if they drilled closer the energy would be released. But my question is does that scene explain the Swan hatch and the necessity of the button? Could Dharma have been drilling a similar cavern on the location of the Swan and drilled too far and necessitated the need for a button and the stopper on the release of energy. Because look at the evidence, the energy at the orchid was enough to melt a drill and apparently kill a man and the energy at the Swan was enough to take down a 747. So I think they were drilling at the Swan they drilled too far and too much energy was released, therefore the button was made.

I wondered the same thing Brock, and not only that but why were they drilling at all? Seems like the people doing the drilling had been given some pretty dangerous instructions. Why hadn't they been told beforehand about this energy?

Hello all, it's been well over a year since I've been to The Lage, and I cannot believe there are only 4 pages of threads for a season premiere!!!! Has everyone moved on to other shows, or is there a better LOST site around?

Anyway, in the beginning of the premiere Dr. Candlewax emplores the foreman not to drill another centimeter or else they'd all be blown to bits. This would indicate that 1cm of rock is sufficient to house/harness a source of limitless energy. Haha, ya right!

Don't forget there are 4 more pages over on "the Lie" board, so really theres eight!;)


I'm going with Wolands explaination, makes sense to me:).

Hello all, it's been well over a year since I've been to The Lage, and I cannot believe there are only 4 pages of threads for a season premiere!!!! Has everyone moved on to other shows, or is there a better LOST site around?

Anyway, in the beginning of the premiere Dr. Candlewax emplores the foreman not to drill another centimeter or else they'd all be blown to bits. This would indicate that 1cm of rock is sufficient to house/harness a source of limitless energy. Haha, ya right!

My question is that according to that scene they stoped drilling and never reached the wheel. Yet, all Ben had to do to reach the wheel was put metal in the chamber (al la microwave) turn it on and break a hole in the thin man-made wall of the chamber (I say thin because the blast from doing so did little damage otherwise) and he then had easy access to the wheel. It seems to me that at some point they finished drilling through that rock. and then built the chamber in front of it

Anyway, in the beginning of the premiere Dr. Candlewax emplores the foreman not to drill another centimeter or else they'd all be blown to bits. This would indicate that 1cm of rock is sufficient to house/harness a source of limitless energy. Haha, ya right!

He didn't say "One centimeter will reach the energy." He said that drilling about one centimeter would be bad. The rock could still be very thick, but the additional centimeter would be the straw the broke the camel's back. . .you know, the breaking point. Or he just chose a completely random measurement, as he didn't actually measure anything.

My question is that according to that scene they stoped drilling and never reached the wheel. Yet, all Ben had to do to reach the wheel was put metal in the chamber (al la microwave) turn it on and break a hole in the thin man-made wall of the chamber (I say thin because the blast from doing so did little damage otherwise) and he then had easy access to the wheel. It seems to me that at some point they finished drilling through that rock. and then built the chamber in front of it

I think there is a difference between the chamber that contains the wheel (the place where Ben fell down the latter) and the chamber (below the wheel?) that actually contains the exotic matter. Obviously, at some point they had to drill into the chamber that houses the wheel, and since the exotic matter isn't there, there would be no danger in doing that. However, if you drill into the chamber with the exotic matter, than it would be released.

My question is that according to that scene they stoped drilling and never reached the wheel. Yet, all Ben had to do to reach the wheel was put metal in the chamber (al la microwave) turn it on and break a hole in the thin man-made wall of the chamber (I say thin because the blast from doing so did little damage otherwise) and he then had easy access to the wheel. It seems to me that at some point they finished drilling through that rock. and then built the chamber in front of it
My impression was the chamber was pretty ancient and everthing Ben crawled through after blowing the hole was built pre Dharma. I thought from seeing The Orchid in TNPLH and in BYL was that Dharma simply built the station over the chamber to harness its power.

I think he just meant that any more drilling could be catastrophic. I don't think he meant "1 centimeter" literally.

My impression was the chamber was pretty ancient and everthing Ben crawled through after blowing the hole was built pre Dharma. I thought from seeing The Orchid in TNPLH and in BYL was that Dharma simply built the station over the chamber to harness its power.

I agree - it looked like everything before the chamber with the Frozen Donkey Wheel was made by Dharma (the part where Ben caused the explosion) and everything after that was made pre-Dharma. Which leads me to believe that Ben has WAY more knowledge of the island than Dharma ever did. With the indigenous others under his command, he has probably gleaned all kinds of ancient knowledge about the island that no one outside of the other's group has found out...

I think it was just a matter of speach... dont drill another centimeter... dont drill another inch... dont even think of drilling further...

I think he means that once the protective layer of whatever is surrounding the exotic matter is penetrated... they will not be able to stop the release of energy. And by the sonogram Chang was looking at, I think there is quite a bit of exotic matter there. At least as large as the FDW was if not a bit bigger..

http://getlostpodcast.iimmgg.com/image/d2c8a3b1376f729c5ae5a1fada9d6b59

I think Dharma had been in the FDW chamber as that was a broken metal ladder that Ben was climbing down, maybe installed by Dharma.

I am fairly certain it was a wooden ladder. IMO... Dharma had nothing to do with the construction of the wheel, room, or tunnel there... Beacuse they are drilling on the opposite side of th exotic matter, and the wheel and room are shown on the other side. However, Chang did not seem surprised by a wagon wheel being buried beside the exotic matter....