Did anyone else think that Hugo's mom seemed to make a kind of mental note about the phrase Dharma Initiative when her son was trying to explain "the truth" about the last several years? It was the only real concrete thing she could grasp in all that jumble of Hurley's stream of truth, but it may come back around that somehow Hurley's mom and the DI get connected when things get even weirder than they are now.

When he was explaining to her I honestly thought she was going to say something like "I know son, I know everything that happened" hmm, I'm going to have to rewatch that part. There has to be more to her reaction, or maybe I'm over analyzing! Ah! I just hope Widmores people or someone comes after her now that she DOES know :O

I have been thinking for awhile that many of the survivor's parents were involved with Dharma. Kate's dad served with Kelvin in the Army, Jack's dad taking trips to Australia, and Hurley's dad being missing all those years. Maybe this year we will see all of them on the island in some form?

What I was expecting was for Hurley to say "Wow now that I say all that out loud to someone who wasn't there, it sounds totally insane!"

If there's anything to it at all, it would be because the Dharma Initiative is the only piece of the puzzle that could be known to the wider public.

Besides, isn't part of this season going to be about the Dharma Initiative being reconstituted?

Did anyone else think that Hugo's mom seemed to make a kind of mental note about the phrase Dharma Initiative when her son was trying to explain "the truth" about the last several years? It was the only real concrete thing she could grasp in all that jumble of Hurley's stream of truth, but it may come back around that somehow Hurley's mom and the DI get connected when things get even weirder than they are now.

Hey Pink, I'm gonna have to see that part again. I think you may have something there.

Our first reaction was that only a mom can tell if her children are telling the truth. I think she knew her son's rantings and this time she knew he was telling the truth.

On a side note, after hearing Hurley's explanation (re-cap for us) of what has happened on the Island (the show) I thought to myself, "That sounds pretty crazy. Why am I watching this show?"

I think there was something in the nachos I was eating. Maybe they were Dharma nachos. Hmmm.

To use language from another TV show(24):

She's been compromised!

aaaaaand

WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME!!!!!

Maybe Hurley's mother heard of the DI back in the 70s? Lots of people joined Jim Jones' cult... perhaps she heard of this cult back in the day leading to credence of Hurley's story? Who in their 30s and above these days don't know of the Moonies? They crossed borders the cult was so big.

i'm thinking her reaction was only because throughout his ridiculous sounding explanation a word of some kind of substance came out of it. she probably thought, i need to look that up on the internet. that way she would be able to understand more on what hurley was saying.

i found it very touching that she said she believed him, as only a mother would;). i think she raised hurley to be a moralistic person and she knows how much he does not like to lie.

my prediction; however is:

his mother will be murdered because he told her.

what i found interesting was when sayid woke up and he was asking jack where hurely was.

jack: he's at home

sayid: with who?

jack: his mother, i guess.

and then sayid said something about hurley being safe. it struck me that sayid was concerned about anyone's safety involved with hurley.

I can't see them ever killing Carmen. That would cast too much darkness on a lighthearted set of characters.

I had the same thought about Carmen being murdered. When Hurley said they had lied, I was yelling at the TV, "No, Hurley, don't tell her!" I'm concerned that something bad is going to happen to her now. :frown:

Then Ben was just there in the house, all stealthy. Where were Hurley's parents then? Gulp!

Maybe Hurley's mother heard of the DI back in the 70s? Lots of people joined Jim Jones' cult... perhaps she heard of this cult back in the day leading to credence of Hurley's story? Who in their 30s and above these days don't know of the Moonies? They crossed borders the cult was so big.


:biglaugh:oh man that would be hysterical! Throw in Geronimo Jackson while were at it! ROFL. Imagine Hurley's reaction if she told him that?:biggrin:

That would really be awful if they killed her...She's like the most 'normal' (well kinda-sorta) out of the parents weve seen...(er maybe not LOL).

I have been thinking for awhile that many of the survivor's parents were involved with Dharma. Kate's dad served with Kelvin in the Army, Jack's dad taking trips to Australia, and Hurley's dad being missing all those years. Maybe this year we will see all of them on the island in some form?


and don't forget Kate's visits with Sam Austen up to FT.Lewis Washington (right over the border to Mittelos Science btw..)


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The significance of the conversation was his therapeutic confession and his mother's acceptance that finally brought an end to Hurley's mental problems. He's free to function on his own now, and that opens the door for him to do something important in the story.

"I don't understand you, but I believe you" was one of the most touching lines in the whole series to date. What better medicine could he get for his troubles than total acceptance and trust from the person who means most to him, his mom.

The significance of the conversation was his therapeutic confession and his mother's acceptance that finally brought an end to Hurley's mental problems. He's free to function on his own now, and that opens the door for him to do something important in the story.

"I don't understand you, but I believe you" was one of the most touching lines in the whole series to date. What better medicine could he get for his troubles than total acceptance and trust from the person who means most to him, his mom.



VERY well said!!! It was definitely a tender moment!

I have been thinking for awhile that many of the survivor's parents were involved with Dharma. Kate's dad served with Kelvin in the Army, Jack's dad taking trips to Australia, and Hurley's dad being missing all those years. Maybe this year we will see all of them on the island in some form?

This is exactly what I wanted to see this season - the support characters like Christian Sheppard and Paik and Mr. Austin finally have their roles explained via their connection to the island's shenanigans. It would be awesome if Hurley's parents were in it too, some how.

Oh! Perhaps John Locke leaves the island in the 70's and explains to Hurley's parents about the special little boy they have?

BTW do we really know, what did Hurleys father all the years of his absence?..:confused:

I can't see them ever killing Carmen. That would cast too much darkness on a lighthearted set of characters.

you're right because killing alex wasn't dark at all:confused:.

i still think H's parents are in on the Widmore conspiracy. She did understand, and tips from the Dad show he does as well....he did set up the numbers on H's car's speedometer.

Mrs. Reyes' comment was unconditional support--she doesn't have to understand her son to believe that HE believes something. She may even have believed him herself without it having to make "sense" since she is not a Woman of Science.


But I did notice that she seemed to latch on to the words Dharma Institute during Hugo's purging of the lie since those words were the only "fact" that might have sounded like something she could try to verify. If she goes looking for the DI, she will find out things, at least the cover-story things that have been created to hide the DI's work on the Island. And that's where things could get ... interesting. Hurley's now in jail, so if Mrs. Reyes goes snooping around for DI information because she believes that her son didn't kill anyone and wants to find out the truth to help her son get free, all that cash from the lottery winnings could buy a lot of people's tongues, and they might just be willing to part with "secrets" if they think that "eat, drink, and be merry," is the rule of the day.

The significance of the conversation was his therapeutic confession and his mother's acceptance that finally brought an end to Hurley's mental problems. He's free to function on his own now, and that opens the door for him to do something important in the story.

"I don't understand you, but I believe you" was one of the most touching lines in the whole series to date. What better medicine could he get for his troubles than total acceptance and trust from the person who means most to him, his mom.

Here here!

Even if nothing bad happens to Carmen and Cheech, it makes me sad to think of Hurley leaving them with no explanation and never seeing them again. They've been so accepting! I guess I could feel a little sorry about Margo, too. The Paiks, not so much. (But Jin's father was the best of the whole bunch.)

Even if nothing bad happens to Carmen and Cheech, it makes me sad to think of Hurley leaving them with no explanation and never seeing them again. They've been so accepting! I guess I could feel a little sorry about Margo, too. The Paiks, not so much. (But Jin's father was the best of the whole bunch.)

it's funny you say this because this morning, my son and i were watching again the scene where ben was trying to get hurley to leave with him, and i noticed a few little twitches on hurley's face to where i thought (originally) that he was going to say, sure, let's go. so, i said this to my son, and he said, no way. he wouldn't want to leave his mom and dad. i thought that was sweet. hurley will be sad to leave, but i think with him telling his mom the whole truth, him explaning to her why he has to go back, she will then understand......but she will not be happy!

i LOVE Hurley's mom!

I can't remember (and I'm too lazy right now to look LOL)...Did Hurley commit himself to Santa Rosa or did his parents put him there after the accident?

I can't remember (and I'm too lazy right now to look LOL)...Did Hurley commit himself to Santa Rosa or did his parents put him there after the accident?
Hurley was placed back in Santa Rosa after being arrested for a long car chase with the police in the first episode of S4. He begged to go back after seeing Charlie swim up to him in the mirror of the holding room.

I'm so convinced of Hugo's dad's Island involvement, I think that's his hair I see on unconscious in the car Sayid's shirt front.

The murder of Carmen could be the impetus that moves Hurley to want to take action against the DI and Ben. It could be a turning point for him to grow.


As a side note, Carmen was also the housekeeper for Lucille Bluth. Even though the shows do not share the same universe, in my mind, that is what she did before Hurley won all his millions.

Yeah, I know her name was Luz (lit. "light" in Spanish) in A.D.but, her name could be Carmen Luz Reyes. Could happen.

The murder of Carmen could be the impetus that moves Hurley to want to take action against the DI and Ben. It could be a turning point for him to grow.


As a side note, Carmen was also the housekeeper for Lucille Bluth. Even though the shows do not share the same universe, in my mind, that is what she did before Hurley won all his millions.

Yeah, I know her name was Luz (lit. "light" in Spanish) in A.D.but, her name could be Carmen Luz Reyes. Could happen.


Please, NO!!! They already did that with Alex. And Nadia. And Libby, come to think of it.

Please, NO!!! They already did that with Alex. And Nadia. And Libby, come to think of it.

Alex, Nadia and Libby were housekeepers on Arrested Development?

No, really. What about Alex, Nadia and Libby? Please, say more on this.

Back to Carmen... (so as not to appear off topic) her reaction wasn't one of surprise. It was rather calm. I agree with those that she knows more than she is leading on.

And yes, it was a healing moment for Hurley. I remember that scene where Hurley explains to Danielle about the numbers. He was comforted by just someone agreeing with him.

There is always the idea that either Hugo's mom or dad had some connection to the Dharma Institute "back in the day" when it was trying to look "real" and perhaps the reaction was caused by "I know about them" and she knows that Hugo couldn't have made up that name.

If there's anything to it at all, it would be because the Dharma Initiative is the only piece of the puzzle that could be known to the wider public.

Besides, isn't part of this season going to be about the Dharma Initiative being reconstituted?
That was during Carmen's blossoming, impressionable years. She might even have been involved herself.


The significance of the conversation was his therapeutic confession and his mother's acceptance that finally brought an end to Hurley's mental problems. He's free to function on his own now, and that opens the door for him to do something important in the story.

"I don't understand you, but I believe you" was one of the most touching lines in the whole series to date. What better medicine could he get for his troubles than total acceptance and trust from the person who means most to him, his mom.
It was one of my favorite moments of the two shows, and I think you pegged it perfectly. I'd prefer this be the explanation - a genuine show of support even though his explanation sounds crazy, rather than understanding because she's part of the 'conspiracy', as it were.


it's funny you say this because this morning, my son and i were watching again the scene where ben was trying to get hurley to leave with him, and i noticed a few little twitches on hurley's face to where i thought (originally) that he was going to say, sure, let's go. so, i said this to my son, and he said, no way. he wouldn't want to leave his mom and dad. i thought that was sweet. hurley will be sad to leave, but i think with him telling his mom the whole truth, him explaning to her why he has to go back, she will then understand......but she will not be happy!
Aww, that's sweet. You know he's thinking of how he'd feel himself if he had to leave you. :wub: