I feel like the further we get into the Lost the more interesting past episodes become. I was hoping we could come up with a list of things that have happened in past episodes that point to time travel and time loops. Things that come to mind for me are in the 1st season when Sawyer says to Kate that he knows girls like her and she says not exactly like her and when Sawyer tells Kate that he has had a birthday wish for 4 years or something like that.

What are some things in the past seasons that you see differently now that we know time travel is a big aspect of the show?
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I wouldn't say either of those are really examples. Just an offhand comment Sawyer made. And anyway, he hasn't done any time travelling at that point.
I think there will be a negligible amount of examples in previous episodes, for reasons I can't fully articulate yet.

I feel like the further we get into the Lost the more interesting past episodes become. I was hoping we could come up with a list of things that have happened in past episodes that point to time travel and time loops. Things that come to mind for me are in the 1st season when Sawyer says to Kate that he knows girls like her and she says not exactly like her and when Sawyer tells Kate that he has had a birthday wish for 4 years or something like that.

What are some things in the past seasons that you see differently now that we know time travel is a big aspect of the show?
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I agree it does make you want to watch it from season one again but alas I really don't like the whole time travel thing & although right now it is but I hope it doesn't remain a big aspect of the show. It's been over done. I would rather it be Time Travel in the mind then actual Bill & Ted type time travel. More like It's a Wonderful Life then Quantum Leap if you catch my drift. :redface:

I said this in another thread, but I like the idea that Locke, Desmond, and Eko were rescued from the hatch by time travelers, because I still don't know how they made it out.

-Kate and Tom burried a "time capsule"
-The first time we saw Widmore he let Desmond choose between his past and his future.
-Locke predicting the weather since the beginning of the show
-All Desmond's centrics
-The book Sawyer was reading in season 4 "The invention of Morel"

I'm sure there's a lot more.

I said this in another thread, but I like the idea that Locke, Desmond, and Eko were rescued from the hatch by time travelers, because I still don't know how they made it out.
nice idea, indeed...

How about the whispers being the voices of the time travelers spying on their doubles?

Jack being dragged away from the plane right after the crash for reasons that we still don't get right now?

Jacob's list being actually made by probable Locke? He put those names there for a reason that again we are unaware of and gave it to some guy called Jacob in the past during some time skipping?

nice idea, indeed...

How about the whispers being the voices of the time travelers spying on their doubles?


I actually started a thread to this effect in 'spoiler theories,' but it hasn't gotten much attention.


Jack being dragged away from the plane right after the crash for reasons that we still don't get right now?


I had always assumed he had just landed there because of the crash, like how Bernard landed in the tree.


Jacob's list being actually made by probable Locke? He put those names there for a reason that again we are unaware of and gave it to some guy called Jacob in the past during some time skipping?

I don't really see something like this happening, but it's definitely possible.

Locke always saying "Not supposed to do" this or that or "it's not supposed to happen this way" kinda sealed the deal for me long ago.

I said this in another thread, but I like the idea that Locke, Desmond, and Eko were rescued from the hatch by time travelers, because I still don't know how they made it out.

I think that Desmond turning the failsafe key put them out of phase with the explosion, so that they were unharmed, and possibly transported a few feet/yards away.

Maybe?:confused:

nice idea, indeed...

How about the whispers being the voices of the time travelers spying on their doubles?

Jack being dragged away from the plane right after the crash for reasons that we still don't get right now?

Jacob's list being actually made by probable Locke? He put those names there for a reason that again we are unaware of and gave it to some guy called Jacob in the past during some time skipping?

Jacob's list has the names of the people who did not leave the island :)

given to him by John himself. That is if John locke isn't Jacob

Jacob's list has the names of the people who did not leave the island :)

given to him by John himself. That is if John locke isn't Jacob

You know? I used to think that, since Ben was the only one who could commnunicate with Jacob, he could have jjust lie to his people about WHO were really on Jacob's list for his own reasons. He may have made his own list and pass it as Jacob's.
And curiously 3 of the Oceanic 6 were on Ben's list when they were kidnapped. Aaron was also adbucted. And Sun, being pregnant, was gonna be too.

In the one missing pieces King of the Castle-

JACK:
What, the... the Island's gonna sink the sub?

BEN:
[chuckling]
No. No. I promise you,
I won't do anything to prevent you from getting home.
But if you do leave this place,
the day may come when you want to return.

JACK:
Never.

BEN:
I've learned never to say never.
And if that day comes,
I hope you remember this conversation.

As if Ben knew about the sub and Jack's eventual desire to return.;)

Things that point to time travel:

- The similarity of Locke's experience this episode with the Beechcraft and leg injury. In Deus Ex Machina he had a vision of the Beechcraft flying and crashing. When he awoke, he and Boone searched for the location, and along the way he experienced debilitating injury to his leg. In The Lie, he "again" saw the crash and again had a leg injury.

- One of my oldest theories was that players who have the benefit of hindsight (that is...they are reliving moments in the past but retaining "memories" from future knowledge) are able to better influence events for their favor. So far, Locke has only been able to predict the rain and have an inkling that certain things are destined, and even then he wasn't always right...or so he thought. Desmond experienced overt time tripping consciousness and managed to change a few things which helped bring about ultimate rescue. Ben, on the other hand, almost always seems to know exactly what to do. He "always has a plan". I am certain that this is because he's either in a time loop reliving events or he's has the benefit of the wisdom of someone (Jacob?) who is.
http://forum.thefuselage.com/showthread.php?t=79242&highlight=time
http://lost.cubit.net/forum/index.php?topic=3748.msg191760#msg191760

For me, a fun part of watching old episodes is shouting at the screen "No! Don't make that mistake because something terrible will happen", then realizing that it may be a necessary hardship that's part of the Ultimate Plan.

ex. If Locke hadn't smashed The Button, then Desmond would've never turned the failsafe key and Penny would've never found them. Unfortunately the Losties had to go without the comfort of the hatch afterwards.

If Ben hadn't been caught in the trap by Rousseau, he wouldn't have been able to learn so much about the Losties and plant seeds in Locke's head. Unfortunately, he had to suffer being tuned up by Sayid.

The classic scene from Season One between Desmond and Jack in the stadium is DEFINITELY time-travel related imo. One of the strangest and most interesting scenes in the entire show. To refresh, in the scene Desmond confidently talks about miracles and tells Jack to "lift it up" as if hes privy to information about the future.

I'm sure we will see this scene again before the end of the show with an explanation of why Desmond gave such weird, cryptic advice to Jack.
100%
In general, all the visions the characters are experiencing are likely elements of time travel being confused for dreams.

* Locke's meeting with Horace Goodspeed is probably referencing a conversation Locke had when he travelled back in time

* Walt's entire storyline is probably filled with time travel experiences - i.e when Shannon sees Walt before she dies, when Locke sees him in the grave, etc

I totally agree with this - Locke definitely knows more than he admits in earlier seasons. Perhaps one Locke is dead (in the coffin) and the other is still alive on the island.

I agree it does make you want to watch it from season one again but alas I really don't like the whole time travel thing & although right now it is but I hope it doesn't remain a big aspect of the show. It's been over done. I would rather it be Time Travel in the mind then actual Bill & Ted type time travel. More like It's a Wonderful Life then Quantum Leap if you catch my drift. :redface:

(Un)Fortunately - depending on your stance - we already know that they are traveling in their bodies because Locke was injured during one time period and remains injured in the next time period. Also, Charlotte's physical symptoms seem to be getting worse.

Ben, on the other hand, almost always seems to know exactly what to do. He "always has a plan". I am certain that this is because he's either in a time loop reliving events or he's has the benefit of the wisdom of someone (Jacob?) who is.You mean, except when he decides to intercept the Losties on their way to the radio tower, or when he decides to send Alex with Danielle to get to a "safe place," or even in this very episode when he goes to get Hurley in the present...

The runway that the others were making Kate and Sawyer build

Locke probably goes back in time and talks to Richard again, and tells him about the people that leave and how they will need to return someday, so Richard tells Ben to have his people construct a runway.

I believe this runway will be used by the oceanic 6 if they fly back to the island.