In Dead is Dead we find out Locke return..alive. Ben is judge by the smoke monster and is told to listen to every word John Locke says, and to follow his every order. Now Locke is on a mission to kill Jacob. Does anyone think that Locke might not be Locke, but a manifest of the smoke monster?

The smoke Monster could be a nemesis of Jacob, an opposing force. What do we know about Jacob, and what do we know about the smoke monster?

Well we know that both Kate, and Sawyer was on Jacob's list, along with Eko, and Ana. We know that Kate,Sawyer, Eko and Ana are all murderers. Ben told Locke that in order to become a other , he must kill his father, as Ben has done.

The smoke monster killed Eko, who was a murder . I believe that it was the smoke monster who manifest into Christian Shepard, that Jack followed that led him to water

In season one Locke told Walt a story about Light and dark, good and evil. I think The smoke monster, and Jacob are the opposing force of good and evil. But which one is good, and which one is Evil?

Does anyone think that Locke might not be Locke, but a manifest of the smoke monster?


You never see Locke and Smokey together now, do you?

Actually, I think this is the most plausible explanation I've heard to date. And well established by the writers, having Smokey-Alex to tell Ben to follow Locke (i.e. it).

To really know for sure, we'd need to see more of / revisit Jacob's cabin. The only issue I see is how to explain Smokey-Christian in the cabin. And with whom, Smokey-Claire, undead Claire, alive but spacey Claire? I'm trying to remember that scene. The two of them were together in the cabin, right?

But I like the potential of this theory a lot.

I am kind of on board with this -- I've had similar thoughts.

So far, I feel as though the writers are painting Locke as some sort of good figure - showing him happy, feeling like he has a purpose, etc. As an audience, we are to sympathize with Locke because we've seen he's had such a horrible life (and it's refreshing to see him on top for once), but wouldn't a great twist be finding out that Locke is, in fact, the 'evil' force on the Island? Or, even worse, being manipulated by something greater like Christian/the Monster? I have this feeling that the writers are going to throw a curve ball like that.

In addition, I feel as though the Island conflict has been between Jacob and the Monster for a while. We have Jacob who's trapped ("help me!" and the ring of *ash*) and the Monster and Christian who have been popping up all over the Island.

Right now, I'm guessing the dynamic is like this...
TEAM JACOB : Jacob and *possibly* Richard (but I honestly think Richard is more like a neutral force - possibly the Island's constant who doubles as an advisor)
TEAM MONSTER : The Monster, Christian (whatever he is), Locke
TEAM NEITHER : survivors of Oceanic Flight 815 (they seem more focused on their own lives - not the Island's, but I'm sure that's going to change soon, what with Claire being absconded, Christian telling Locke "say hello to my son," etc.)

Then again, what's to say Jacob is good either? or the Monster is evil? After all, all we've ever heard about Jacob is that he's "not forgiving," he hate's technology, and he's very powerful. But then again, the Monster kills people. So... I have no idea.


I think the key here is that the mark of a good leader is that they're reluctant. If someone wants to be a leader, than there is more of a self-serving motivation behind their intentions. On "LOST", we've consistently seen Locke try to be more - he has delusions of grandeur, etc. - I think this is an indication that, all along, Locke was never supposed to be a leader. He wants it too much. The reason Jack was such a good leader in the first season was because he didn't want the job. He just did what needed to be done.
Maybe that's the reason Richard's having reservations about Locke now. It seems like his job is to try and see who should be leader, and he's seeing that Locke is becoming something more malevolent/power-hungry. After all, Richard seemed a little put-off by Locke when he met him again when he said "something is different about you." This was obviously not the Locke he wanted as a leader three years ago.

This could also go back to the test in season four. When Richard showed young!Locke the items, when Locke chose the knife instead of the Book of Laws, Richard got angry. While he chose the right items, Locke obviously chose the more violent/deadly item, instead of taking the more law-abiding item represented by the book. And it seems like that is what is going to happen.

... now I'm getting more confused. We haven't even received answers about "the list" yet - What list is this? And who wrote it? And if Ben has never talked to Jacob, and Richard possibly has never talked to him - who created the List? And why is it important?

I wouldnt classify anything on this show as good or evil anymore, everyone just seem to have their motivation and nobody looked like he was acting out of "pure evil".

But it does look like Jacob is Smokey's enemy. After all Locke was insturcted by the Island how to find his past self, yet he didnt meet Jacob yet. Then he's on a mission to kill Jacob, what was probably told to him by the Island too.
I think Jacob was once representing the Island, but wanted all the power to himself, and since then there was a power struggle between him and Smokey for control over the Island.
Time for Jacob to die..

hen again, what's to say Jacob is good either? or the Monster is evil? After all, all we've ever heard about Jacob is that he's "not forgiving," he hate's technology, and he's very powerful. But then again, the Monster kills people. So... I have no idea.



It's assume that Jacob is good, because of what Ben said." We're the good guys"
It's assume that the smoke monster is evil because he killed Eko. But we do not know for sure. There is the matter of Jacob's list. Goodwin told Ana that Nathan was not a good person. That's why he wasn't on the list. Therefore we assume that people on the Jacob's list was good...but where they?

The smoke monster as Locke makes a lot of sense, if you consider how surprise Richard was to see Locke alive. So the island is able to heal, but not bring back to life what is already dead.

So why would Locke/Smoke monster want to kill Jacob? could it be that he just want to free Jacob, or could Jacob be a opposing force to the smoke monster?