On the plane, Sawyer advises Hurley not to tell people about his lottery win, as they may try to take advantage of him.

Anyone else think Sawyer is looking to con Hurley himself? Become friends and gain his trust, then swoop?

I dunno, just a thought. He had a knowing little smile on his face when Hugo said it would never happen.

Sure seems like an Alt reality arch to me, i think Sawyer will con Hurley.

Possibly. Also possible that they just wanted to work in that Hurley was now the luckiest guy alive.

I thought maybe Sawyer felt some kind of knowing of friendship towards him and was just being nice and giving him advice.......or do I just love Sawyer too much? lol

AU Sawyer seems a bit too laid back to hit on Hurley. Plus it's too early to say what kind of character AU Sawyer is going to be.

I thought maybe Sawyer felt some kind of knowing of friendship towards him and was just being nice and giving him advice.......or do I just love Sawyer too much? lol

No - you cannot love Sawyer too much. You must love him MORE! :ntworthy:

What if Sawyer in the alt universe is a investment sales man and is just looking to help out Hurley?


hahahahaha

The alternate reality, thus far, seems to be a kinder, gentler reality. Maybe even if Sawyer did try to con Hurley, he's only end up working for Hurley as some kind of humanitarian.

What if Sawyer in the alt universe is a investment sales man and is just looking to help out Hurley?


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Hehe... investment sales men also have eyes on other people's millions.

I completely agree! On another thread, someone was citing the ways in which the alt Losties were different, and I opined that Sawyer's comment to Hurley led me to believe that he was contemplating a bit of a con, a la the "real" Sawyer. (And by "real" Sawyer, I do NOT mean Anthony Cooper!)

I have to think the total opposite with that scene.

It seems to me its not a conman Sawyer that we know. If it was conman Sawyer I think he would have kept his mouth shut and approached Hurley different, like by not saying anything and to make it obvious that he heard.

To me they are all different, so why would Sawyer still be the same

the other thing that stuck out was Sawyer said sorry to the U.S. Marshal when he bumped into him in the isle. I was waiting for Sawyer to come back with a smart arse comment but he didn't and just said sorry

Sawyer seemed much more relaxed than he did on the original flight...perhaps his purpose for going to Australia was not to kill the real Sawyer (who turned out not to be)...but perhaps his trip was a plan to con Hurley and he followed him to Australia?

It seems to me its not a conman Sawyer that we know. If it was conman Sawyer I think he would have kept his mouth shut and approached Hurley different, like by not saying anything and to make it obvious that he heard.Actually, what Sawyer said would be the perfect way to begin the con: feign concern, appear protective, win trust. The mark would never suspect that the person who, from the start, was worried that someone might take advantage of him, is actually taking advantage of him. Besides, if the con man can raise the mark's level of concern about others who might try to con him, that makes it less likely that there will be other conmen in competition with him.

But I was wondering if the Sawyer in this timeline is perhaps not a conman, too. It would go back to when Sawyer became a conman in the first place. The timestreams diverged in 1977, apparently, so if Sawyer is Josh Holloway's age, he would only have been 8 at the time. His whole life could have gone differently.

I agree with EdMuse here. I'm pretty sure we are looking at the same Sawyer that's always been there. His cons have always been about getting people to do what they think they want, but it's really what Sawyer wants. This is the perfect set-up to getting Hurley to trust him and eventually confide in him. I don't think the bomb would have done much to change who Sawyer was. His parents were killed in '76, I believe. I'm sure he told Jack in The Incident that the deaths happened just last year and he could've changed it, but he didn't. We know that is what set him on his path in the first place to who he was, so I doubt he is much different.

I actually liked the vibe between them in this episode, at least on a first watch. Maybe I read it wrong, but I thought that concern and friendship was genuine. I don't know, I'm rather attached to the friendships that we have seen developed with Hurley, though.

There are a lot of legitimate and legal ways someone can use the talents of conning someone.

Could be that he's going to con him, could be that feels some kind of inexplicable bond with him or it could be nothing. We'll just have to wait and see. It would be interesting if some animosity developed between them, because they initially hated each other (insofar as Hurley can hate anyone), but then their experiences on the island caused them to bond and changed them both, especially Sawyer. Without those experiences, it's hard to imagine it'd go the same way.

Any of the above could apply to the elevator scene between Sawyer and Kate, too. Inexplicable bond again? I'd say probably not in this case. He probably just though he might as well help out a fellow con, especially a pretty one.

To me they are all different, so why would Sawyer still be the same

Not everyone is different. True, Hurley is lucky and Locke seems more accepting of his situation. But Charlie is still a junkie, Kate is still a fugitive, Bernard and Rose are still romantic, Jin is still an overbearing husband. Sawyer is at least still scummy enough to aid an obvious fugitive.

I don't think Sawyer is a con man in this timeline. He acts so different in many ways. An older guy giving advice to a too trusting young man. Or maybe Sawyer is actually in law enforcement this time? We will fing out in due time, but not fast enough gor me.

Actually, what Sawyer said would be the perfect way to begin the con: feign concern, appear protective, win trust. The mark would never suspect that the person who, from the start, was worried that someone might take advantage of him, is actually taking advantage of him. Besides, if the con man can raise the mark's level of concern about others who might try to con him, that makes it less likely that there will be other conmen in competition with him.

But I was wondering if the Sawyer in this timeline is perhaps not a conman, too. It would go back to when Sawyer became a conman in the first place. The timestreams diverged in 1977, apparently, so if Sawyer is Josh Holloway's age, he would only have been 8 at the time. His whole life could have gone differently.

I believe that writing that letter, with a pen provided by Jacob, is what sealed Sawyer's fate. My guess is that he is not conning and is not using the name Sawyer. It would be uncanny if this James Ford was a cop considering his stint as Island Sheriff.

I believe that writing that letter, with a pen provided by Jacob, is what sealed Sawyer's fate. My guess is that he is not conning and is not using the name Sawyer. It would be uncanny if this James Ford was a cop considering his stint as Island Sheriff.
And that's why he helped Kate when he saw her handcuffs?

Not all cops do everything by the book. I'll bet he knew what a 341 or a 314 was, or whatever.

Not all cops do everything by the book. I'll bet he knew what a 341 or a 314 was, or whatever.
Well, if he's a cop, he's a dirty cop. Which I could get with.

Funny how at least two men she loved previously were a cop and a doctor, Tom and Kevin.

New Improved or Original Recipe, with or without a twist Jacob, James' interest in/concern over Hugo could see him walk smack into conman with an eye for a mark Anthony 'Tom Sawyer' Cooper.

Cooper's son just rolled offa the same plane - could be a volatile mix.