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RoyBatty
03-21-2010, 04:01 PM
So in Recon we get a really good dose of what "infected" characters look like. Supposedly Sayid and Claire are infected or claimed according to Dogen. And in this episode both Claire and Sayid appear... out there. So it got me to thinking about the vaccines from way back in season 2. Who has been injected with them? Who hasn't?

Who has definitely been injected
Desmond
Aaron (Ethan attacks and Claire abduction time)
Charlie (tested the injector on himself before giving it to Claire)

Who has maybe been injected
Claire (if Aaron in vitro injections count for her)
Sawyer
Miles
Jin
Juliet
Daniel
Jack
Kate
Hurley

Who has not been injected but is back on the island now
Claire (if Aaron's in vitro shots don't count for her)
Sayid
Sun
Frank
Rose
Bernard
Vincent

So, why Sawyer, Jack, Kate, etc maybe being injected? Consider the In-processing station the DI used for processing new recruits. We saw it in Namaste. We also saw people getting injected (http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/File:Curtain-cap108.jpg) as part of their processing. Both the Sawyer crew and then later, the Jack, Kate, Hurley crew were motivated to fit in with the DI during the 74-77 years. They wouldn't want to make a spectacle of themselves and resist the DI's ways of doing things, so they would have likely taken shots if it was part of the normal scene there. Lostpedia artile on the vaccine. (http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Injection)

Sayid was jailed and then on the run for most of the 77 stuff. He was never injected with anything.

- If we assume that Claire never actually used the injector Charlie found due to Desmond's warning in Live Together, Die Alone

[We see Claire getting ready to give Aaron an injection.]
DESMOND: [off camera at first] You're wasting your time, sister. I shot myself with that stuff every 9 days for 3 years.- And we assume that Aaron getting shots during Claire's pregnancy doesn't count for Claire

- And we assume that Sawyer and the gang got their shots during their DI days

Then

We are left with those currently infected never having been inoculated. And we are left with all of the numbered candidates having been inoculated except...

Sun

Granted, it's alot of assuming. :laughing: But if you can hang with all of that, sort of makes one worry about Ms Glass Ballerina, no? 42 is Jin imo.

beema
03-22-2010, 12:06 AM
In both instances of the vaccine's seen usage (with Desmond and with Claire at the Staff hatch), it was indicated that the vaccine needed to be injected daily to keep working (what a lousy vaccine!). If indeed they were even the same vaccine, if indeed it was a vaccine used to combat THE sickness, then it still wouldn't matter, since anyone who had been injected has gone without injections for years.

Avius
03-22-2010, 12:11 PM
In vitro injections of Aaron probably do not count for Claire. Ethan told her there was enough for the baby, but not her. Here is a list I put together awhile back:

Inoculated at Dharma Processing:

Hurley
Kate
Jack
Ben

Probably the rest were inoculated when they joined Dharma:

James
Juliet
Jin
Miles
Daniel

Inoculated post-crash:

Desmond
Charlie
Aaron (by Ethan in the Staff.) (Ethan claimed that there wasn't enough for both Claire and the baby to stay with the Others for the long-term.)


Who would not have been inoculated,( or I can't account for having been):

Claire (?)-(I don't see where she ever followed through with inoculating herself or Aaron.)
Sun (Also Ji Yeon, if in vitro counts)
Rousseau
Sayid
Michael (?) (They took his blood almost immediately)
Walt (was tested?)
Rose
Bernard
Locke
I know there's a lot more...will add if need be.

Who's left on the candidate list from our Losties?

Hugo 8 Inoculated

James 15 Inoculated

Sayid 16 not inoculated-claimed infected

Jack 23 Inoculated

Kwon 42 Jin-Inoculated
Sun-not inoculated

Kate 51 Inoculated
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The episode title, Sundown, freaked me out because I thought she might get infected next.