I think you understand. Hey Dom. I was yet again, whatching the behinde the scence LOTR Stuff. This is a really off the LOST topic, just to let you know. Well, I was whatching how you hobbit guys were on your knees. When I saw this I said to myself 'He has no idea.' :biggrin: I don't think you're a puppeteer! I've been lead Puppeteer in my troup for four years, and trust me, I know pain in my knees. Just try this: Hold you hand/arm strait above your head, make your fingers point to the floor, and hold it up there for... 5 minutes. Then get on your knees on a hardwood/tile floor. Move *only* your thumb up and down while your hand is in the air and you're on your knees. It sounds pretty easy right? If so, then do it outside in 70+ degree wheather with a black turtleneck, black jeans and a black hood covering your face and head! Ouch. Say heatstroke! I just thought I would let you know, you aren't alone when It comes to knee pain! Well, night and good luck and fortune with LOST!

*Note: I don't Recomend You try this in Hawaii... I don't think My mum will like it very much when she gets a bill from the hospital saying you got heatstoke and it's her daughter's fault! :biggrin: Toodles!*