Did the tazer have a safety on or is that what the Others injected into the captives? some current-inducing agent? i didn't get to see that scene too well... but my friend was like "dude, the shocker didn't work on the others"


i tried looking for this on the site, but obviously didn't find it and i really don't mean to clog up the site if this is a stupid question...

There are no stupid questions. (Well, very few, anyway. :msn-wink:)

I believe Sawyer mentioned that the tazer had a safety catch on it, which is why it didn't work for him before he got taken down. I'm cracking up at the idea that the Others may be unshockable because, boy, they sure can bleed! :lol:

I could see where you would think that but in LTDA, the four were shocked with the same devices. They didn't have any injections/blood taken at that point so it would probably be safe to say that the safety is really the safety.

haha thanks lisibee.

again, i missed the scene where he tried to shock the other, but when sawyer made that crack about the safety catch... well, i thought it was just that, making a crack about it b/c it was weird.
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oh, good call Wish

Yeah...Sawyer offered up the fact that the tazer guns have safety's to Kate back in the cage...with Benry listening in. I bet the Others modify all the tazers because of this...maybe flip flop the safety's mechanism. Then Sawyer will get defeated yet again when he tries to zap one of them with what he thinks is a working tazer.

How many times has Sawyer failed to out smart these idiots? Ugh!! The Losties need to learn how to keep their mouths shut and assume they are always being monitored.

haha thanks lisibee.

again, i missed the scene where he tried to shock the other, but when sawyer made that crack about the safety catch... well, i thought it was just that, making a crack about it b/c it was weird.


You're welcome. :msn-wink:

I could see why you thought it might have been just a typical Sawyer comment, but he really did look startled when it didn't work, and he sounded pretty serious when he was telling Kate about the Others' smackdown skills.

So........why would the taser's safety be on in the first place? Maybe I'm just tired...I can't figure this out. Can someone explain?

So........why would the taser's safety be on in the first place? Maybe I'm just tired...I can't figure this out. Can someone explain?

I probably shouldn't answer, I'm not really familiar with tazers, but I'm guessing it's so they don't accidentally give a shock, or give a higher-strength shock, when they don't mean to. Pickett said something last night about having given Sawyer only a quarter-strength shock. I'm guessing there's a manual setting or something.

unshockable? hmm have to think about that one.

So........why would the taser's safety be on in the first place? Maybe I'm just tired...I can't figure this out. Can someone explain?

Yeah it is a bit weird that the safety was on because it looked like the guy was trying to shock Sawyer, perhaps there's a fake button on the tazer, along with the fake outfits and fake village, to trick the Losites,

Dunno. For some reason I thought the tazers just don't work on the Others. Yet another mystery of their nature to be revealed. Who knows ..

Dunno. For some reason I thought the tazers just don't work on the Others. Yet another mystery of their nature to be revealed. Who knows ..

I doubt this....i think its just a cautionary safety feature...as we have seen they are very smart and need to be prepared for everything

I believe the safety feature is so you dont accidentaly give someone a full shock or yourself id say Ben might have them changed so if Sawyer tries them again they wont work for him

this may have been asked before but how comes they didnt shock michael would have made his capture a lot easier same for kate in S2

Most safeties are not actually switches you have to flip before you use them (like in the case of a gun). They are usually just an extra button you have to push or something you have to slide to a particular direction before the main button can be depressed. That way it's all one smooth motion to use the device and it goes right back to being in "safety mode" after you release the trigger.

I could see where you would think that but in LTDA, the four were shocked with the same devices. They didn't have any injections/blood taken at that point so it would probably be safe to say that the safety is really the safety.

this may have been asked before but how comes they didnt shock michael would have made his capture a lot easier

Ok, I think that some people are getting confused, or maybe im getting confused and thinking that people are confused but im gonna say this anyway :biggrin:
The Shocker things are just tasers that you use up close (ie NOT long range weapons) where as what the Others used on the 4 in 'LTDA' were random poison darts and therfore maybe shouldve used them on Micheal as he was running, they wouldnt have been able to shock him.

Im sorry if this makes no sense but its late in the UK and it makes sense to me :biggrin:

Shamu x

So........why would the taser's safety be on in the first place? Maybe I'm just tired...I can't figure this out. Can someone explain?
Most safeties are not actually switches you have to flip before you use them (like in the case of a gun). They are usually just an extra button you have to push or something you have to slide to a particular direction before the main button can be depressed. That way it's all one smooth motion to use the device and it goes right back to being in "safety mode" after you release the trigger.That's what I was thinking. I figure the actual trigger mechanism of the taser is in the tips. You press them to the target and they depress and trigger the unit. But only if, say, you thumb is pressing a button underneath. That way, basically, if you're holding the unit wrong, it won't activate.

Ok, I think that some people are getting confused, or maybe im getting confused and thinking that people are confused but im gonna say this anyway :biggrin:
The Shocker things are just tasers that you use up close (ie NOT long range weapons) where as what the Others used on the 4 in 'LTDA' were random poison darts and therfore maybe shouldve used them on Micheal as he was running, they wouldnt have been able to shock him.Some tasers have some range, around 20 feet. The case contains a reel of wire, and compressed air shoots the electrodes out to contact the target. Then the charge is delivered through the wires. I didn't see wires in LTDA, but maybe these are some wierd Other tech where the charge is contained in a capacitor in the tip itself. That way, not being wired, they can have a longer range.

A few taser info links:
http://www.pointshooting.com/taserd.htm
http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2005/Mar-03-Thu-2005/news/25982299.html
http://home.howstuffworks.com/stun-gun5.htm (from How Stuff Works -- with diagrams)

Thanks for the explanation/links guys. I slow-mo'd and did doesn't look like Sawyer kept/hid the taser.....too bad.

Ok, I think that some people are getting confused, or maybe im getting confused and thinking that people are confused but im gonna say this anyway :biggrin:
The Shocker things are just tasers that you use up close (ie NOT long range weapons) where as what the Others used on the 4 in 'LTDA' were random poison darts and therfore maybe shouldve used them on Micheal as he was running, they wouldnt have been able to shock him.

Im sorry if this makes no sense but its late in the UK and it makes sense to me :biggrin:

Shamu x

I agree that the weapons in LTDA were long range and shot darts, but they weren't poison darts. When Sawyer was shot with the dart in that episode, the closed captions said something like "electrical buzzing" and Sawyer was jerking like he was being shocked. They appeared to be some kind of electrical darts.

In tivo slo-mo, it appears to me that the taser DID deploy. The lights on the weapon come on for a split second when pressed to Other McChubby, and Sawyer looks surprised nothing happened. Later, of course, he says there's a safety on the taser, but did he really have enough time to ascertain that, or was he merely explaining to himself why the weapon didn't work?

Not to reiterate what I said in my previous post but I still think there is more to it than just a safety catch.

In tivo slo-mo, it appears to me that the taser DID deploy. The lights on the weapon come on for a split second when pressed to Other McChubby, and Sawyer looks surprised nothing happened. Later, of course, he says there's a safety on the taser, but did he really have enough time to ascertain that, or was he merely explaining to himself why the weapon didn't work?

Something about this scene has bothered me. This is probably it....good catch! I'm going to rewatch the scene now. Thanks.

good! i'm not the only one who thought this was weird! if someone rewatches it and finds anything please let us know! my friend also said the tazer deployed but the guy didn't get shocked, i didn't get to rewatch it yet unfortunately...

It was a big switch. i work construction and alot of the tools we use have big switchs, so not hurt ourselves theres a safety switch, but not a safety switch like a gun, but one in which you have to press the big button as well as this lil black button on the side. this way you can carry it on you or leave it somewhere without the fear of you or someone else getting hurt.
i think people just looking to much into this. maybe should watch when juliet or whenpicket uses it and see if they using 2 switches.stun guns all have safety switches. read below the second sentence.


wat a stun gun does:

Stun guns use high voltage and low amperage to temporarily disable an attacker for several minutes. The stun gun does not rely on pain for results. The energy stored in the gun is dumped into the attacker’s muscles causing them to do a great deal of work rapidly. This rapid work cycle instantly depletes the attacker’s blood sugar by converting it to lactic acid. In short, he is unable to produce energy for his muscles, and his body is unable to function properly. The stun gun also interrupts the tiny neurological impulses that control and direct voluntary muscle movement. When the attacker’s neuromuscular system is overwhelmed and controlled by the stun gun he loses his balance. Should the attacker be touching you, the current will NOT pass to your body!

safety features:

Disable Pin: There is a disable pin attached to the end of the wrist strap. This prevents an attacker from taking the stun gun away and using it on you. The wrist strap is worn around your wrist and plugs into the bottom of the stun gun. If the stun gun is taken away from you the disable pin will pull out, preventing the stun gun from working