View Full Version : Mike's bizarre eyes
TabbyRasa 10-23-2006, 06:56 PM Note Mike's eyes (http://gallery.lost-media.com/albums/ep-caps/season3/3x03-instructions/2/normal_instructions-cap-453.jpg): the right eye is extremely dark, and its iris is very large. His left eye is an odd, pale light brown.
I have no idea what it means, unless it is just a "water cooler" effect--something for the viewers to say "Hmmmm..." about. I prefer to think it's important to the story.;)
Other characters have had eye color changes in episodes, too, and the Season 3 poster shows characters with unusual eye colors.
Btw, in this same epi (FI), Locke's eyes (http://gallery.lost-media.com/albums/ep-caps/season3/3x03-instructions/2/normal_instructions-cap-563.jpg) change color, especially in the "trying to shoot Eddie" scene.
:confused:
In case anyone wants to refer to other eye oddities, I have a thread on Same Person, Different Eyes (http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=29998). However, many links posted there subsequently became obsolete due to lost-media.com's server changes.
Hmmmmm.:rolleyes:
busyness 10-23-2006, 07:51 PM I have to say that I hope something as subtle as differences in eye appearance is not being used in production of this show. I'm exhausted just thinking about what teeny, tiny little nuances we could be looking for. This possibility seems too much to me. The producers have said that someone who is not able to commit to lots of time spent searching the Internet would be able to follow the show--that it is not necessary to do extra research. And, honestly, without seeing this theory, it never in a million years would have occurred to me.
SAVE_WALT 10-23-2006, 09:34 PM busyness,
while i wouldn't think that fluctuations in eye color would play a significant role in the direction of the show, they certainly would add to the complexity of the story. there have been things shown and heard on lost that were only ale to be decifered outside of the original airing, that while not required to 'get' what is going on, have proved very interesting.
tabby,
would be cool if there was significance, i will be checking out more.
TabbyRasa 10-24-2006, 11:00 AM I'm not sure why more aren't interesting in discussing the eye color changes; perhaps because it is unexplained and could just be for dramatic effect. It's possibly related to characters going from light to dark and vice versa.
I posted a question to Gregg Nations (http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=61690). He was answering questions yesterday, but so far hasn't replied to mine. ;) Of course, I'm not expecting a "real" answer if the technique is plot-related, nor if it's just for hype. I guess I'm just curious to see how he'll respond.
I did notice that Locke's eye color does not match after he exits the sweat lodge, as well.
It's interesting, but I don't think it's part of something special.
Why? Just because my eyes change colors too, it depends on the weather, if there's sun, it's raining..etc. So maybe they have chinging eyes because of the shooting day..:( sorry if I dissapoint someone.
Kevonski 10-24-2006, 12:05 PM This is silly. Next we will look at how a ponytail is positioned. Could it be aligned to a constellation? (Whatever happened to that train of thought.....)
TabbyRasa 10-24-2006, 09:59 PM busyness,
while i wouldn't think that fluctuations in eye color would play a significant role in the direction of the show, they certainly would add to the complexity of the story. there have been things shown and heard on lost that were only ale to be decifered outside of the original airing, that while not required to 'get' what is going on, have proved very interesting.
tabby,
would be cool if there was significance, i will be checking out more.
Cool. I think you described this well (about adding to the complexity of the story).
It's interesting, but I don't think it's part of something special.
Why? Just because my eyes change colors too, it depends on the weather, if there's sun, it's raining..etc. So maybe they have chinging eyes because of the shooting day..:( sorry if I dissapoint someone.
I see your point, but do your eyes each change to a different color, from each other?
That's the phenomena that I am posting about...the eyes do not match each other, and they change from one color to another within a scene, or in a different scene.
But next to Locke's black and white eyes in Claire's dream, Mike's eyes are the most bizarre yet.
Ok, I get your point now...but still, there are the same chances it has to do with the evolution of the character...as it's just something they haven't noticed while shooting.
Distress Signal 10-24-2006, 11:09 PM I have never noticed Mike's eyes beyond weird (probably because I didn't want to look at him too closely in the first place). If you had a different picture to show, without that hair in his other eye, than maybe it would have more credibility than just an isolated picture.
And I'm not sure what you mean by Locke's eyes. Do you mean Locke's eyes change from green to blue? Because I'm almost certain that both of these things are just quirks that the actors brought to the screen, not scripted. Terry's eyes are supposedly green, but so many times throughout Lost (and other stuff) his eyes tend to look very blue. Maybe they change from green to blue off and on, depending on lighting and other things. I mean, that scene in the trees where Locke was trying to shoot Eddie had a particularly blue atmosphere.
I think this is one of the things that's being way too looked into.
lucky4me8 10-24-2006, 11:16 PM Well, I for one think this is incredibly interesting. To be more specific (and risk ridicule), I've been noticing weird things about peoples' irises, namely differences betgween the two. I started a photoshop file with caps (especially of the opening eyes of various episodes) and keep meaning to think more about what this might mean.
Tabby, I'm going to read your linked thread right now. I'm pretty new here, so maybe I haven't seen it because it was before my time. Anyway, I don't think this trivial in the least.:smile:
By the way, has an episode ever opened with Kate's eye? I don't think so, from what I recall of old discussions, but I'm not 100% sure.
TabbyRasa 10-24-2006, 11:32 PM Well, I for one think this is incredibly interesting. To be more specific (and risk ridicule), I've been noticing weird things about peoples' irises, namely differences betgween the two. I started a photoshop file with caps (especially of the opening eyes of various episodes) and keep meaning to think more about what this might mean.
Tabby, I'm going to read your linked thread right now. I'm pretty new here, so maybe I haven't seen it because it was before my time. Anyway, I don't think this trivial in the least.:smile:
By the way, has an episode ever opened with Kate's eye? I don't think so, from what I recall of old discussions, but I'm not 100% sure.
Thank you, lucky4me8:kiss: , I know I'm not crazy (at least not about this, LOL).
Now that you mention it, no, I don't believe there's been an opening with Kate's eyes...let alone a lingering closeup of her eyes.
You know that late night talk show host (forget which one) who does that skit "is this something?". Well, this IS something.;)
I am hoping that MIKE'S EYES will open some fans' eyes.;) They're pretty extreme.
Oh, and the old thread...I am SO disappointed about the links changing after the fact...it would take me forever to fix them all.:crybaby:
And Distress Signal, thank you for reading the thread...but it's beyond annoying when someone says "this is being way too looked into". Who are you to say what's important to me?;) :) :cool:
Oh, and what I really would like to get is some closeups of Vincent's eyes (when they're different). ;)
TabbyRasa 10-28-2006, 01:47 AM Wow...Gregg was kind enough to give quite a reply, read on:
Gregg Nations - Q&A - Mike's Eyes (http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?p=1244195#post1244195)
Hi Gregg,:cool:
As most LOST viewers know, there is quite a focus on "eyes"...themes, references, and the use of interesting camera shots and lighting.
I noticed in Further Instructions that Mike's eyes (http://gallery.lost-media.com/albums/ep-caps/season3/3x03-instructions/2/normal_instructions-cap-453.jpg) are a bit bizarre (to say the least), and this was in a FB, not even on the Eye-land. What are your thoughts on this? Of course, I'm not asking for spoiler info, just what is allowed to be asked and answered.
There are quite a few other examples of interesting eye color and eye color changes in other episodes. Actually, again in FI, Locke's eyes (http://gallery.lost-media.com/albums/ep-caps/season3/3x03-instructions/2/normal_instructions-cap-563.jpg) also seem to change color, especially in the "trying to shoot Eddie" scene. And then there is the Season 3 poster with the characters having unusual eye color.
Kudos to all for another great epi (FI)!!!
Thanks!
TR:)
Gregg's reply:
My only thought on it, and this is not going to be earth shattering or important in any way, is that eyes are the windows to a person's soul. In terms of TV and movies, the eyes are where the emotion comes from in a performance. Look at the Lord of the Rings films. If they hadn't gotten Gollum's eyes right, the connection to that character would never have happened. The eyes are the first place my eyes go to when watching something on screen (either TV or theater).
How that works its way into "Lost" is two ways. One, we've never really seen it before on TV, so it gives the show a unique look. Two, it tells us thematically that we're going to get to know these characters more deeply than we might otherwise. The flashbacks help us flesh out these people on screen so they become the characters we know and love (or hate, or love to hate). In a sense, we go into their "soul" and see who they present themselves to be and who they really are (so to speak) from their flashbacks.
I bolded what I consider to be some key points in his reply. At the very least, his answer seems to indicate that it's not unimportant, and it's not unintentional.;) (yeah, yeah---2 double negatives, but you get my point.)
As with much of LOST, there is much left to personal interpretation.
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