First question: are these ghosts really ghosts, or maybe time travelers? We've never actually seen Charlie confirmed dead. We saw him trapped in water, but we never actually saw that he drowned. Maybe somehow he time traveled and is appearing to Hurley in the future? Same with Christian -- we never actually saw him die. I'm inclined to say they're not ghosts, but time travelers.

For example, Locke saw a "tall" Walt from the bone pit -- an older Walt. Shannon also saw Walt in the jungle before she died.

Why is it that the characters that we have actually seen dead and buried (Boone, Shannon, Ana Lucia, Mr. Eko -- with the exception of Libby, who I think was just Michael's hallucination) aren't appearing to anyone from beyond the grave, but the ones we just think are dead, are appearing left and right?

Secondly, this may have been raised before on this forum, but Hurley told Jack that Charlie said someone will be visiting him too. Could this be Claire? We haven't actually seen her die either.

First question: are these ghosts really ghosts, or maybe time travelers? We've never actually seen Charlie confirmed dead. Maybe somehow he time traveled and is appearing to Hurley in the future? Same with Christian -- we never actually saw him die. I'm inclined to say they're not ghosts, but time travelers.

For example, Locke saw a "tall" Walt from the bone pit -- an older Walt. Shannon also saw Walt in the jungle before she died. Maybe Walt dies later. Maybe it was Walt, not Michael, in the coffin? Suppose what the obituary actually said was something to the effect of, "was the teenaged son of..." rather than "...had a teenaged son."

Why is it that the characters that we have actually seen die (Boone, Shannon, Mr. Eko) aren't appearing to anyone from beyond the grave, but the ones we just think are dead, are appearing left and right?

Secondly, this may have been raised before on this forum, but Hurley told Jack that Charlie said someone will be visiting him too. Could this be Claire? We haven't actually seen her die either.

We have seen Charlie dead, and we have also seen Christian dead. They have to be Ghost's/Ghost like beings now.. or just a "smoke" trick.
Im personally going w/ GHOST's because we have seen Jack's dad walking about for some time now.







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We have seen Charlie dead, and we have also seen Christian dead. They have to be Ghost's/Ghost like beings now.. or just a "smoke" trick.
Im personally going w/ GHOST's because we have seen Jack's dad walking about for some time now.







"Driveshaft, more like Suckshaft"

We have not seen Charlie or Christian dead and buried. And maybe Christian has been walking about as a time traveler for some time now? But assuming you're right, then how can Walt's ghost be explained if he isn't dead? And if they're ghosts, then why isn't Libby visiting Hurley from beyond the grave?

I thought that TBTB have indicated that there are different explanations for what they are. Some are hallucinations, some are apparitions, some are Smokey.

I thought that TBTB have indicated that there are different explanations for what they are. Some are hallucinations, some are apparitions, some are Smokey.

I don't think that any of the weird phenomena on this show has been explained.

First question: are these ghosts really ghosts, or maybe time travelers?
Neither. They're persons who've pretended to die. They're walking-around in-the-flesh actual people, experiencing the passage of time the old fashioned way.

Neither. They're persons who've pretended to die. They're walking-around in-the-flesh actual people, experiencing the passage of time the old fashioned way.

Then how do they get from place to place and vanish as they do? And why would they pretend to die?

Then how do they get from place to place and vanish as they do?
They come & go in the usual ways anyone would. They "vanish" behind opaque things and to the extent they're not looked for.

And why would they pretend to die?
As part of a bigger plot with the people around them.

Robert

I like the idea that they may have pretended to die (and on this show, anything's possible), but just to play devil's advocate:

Charlie said (when he appeared to Hurley) "I am dead, but I'm also here." Did he lie?

Jack was bringing Christian's body home, in a casket. Is it possible he didn't check to make sure he was really dead?

The coroner(sp) in Australia checked to see if Christian was dead. I would like to throw out the possibility that he was given the venom from the medusa spider, the same kind Nikki used on Paolo.
Also I think the whispers are something else, neither dead nor time travelers. TPTB did say, in a podcastSome people are dead, some are undead, some are smokey, they even gave a list, what exactly undead means is anyones guess.

. TPTB did say, in a podcast

didnt they also say not to believe anything you didnt see in the show?? I think they just like messing with out heads.


And I do think that there are mulitple explanations for the apparitions, Miles can talk to ghost which (IMO) confirms there are ghost/spirits, but Im not ruling out smokey for some of the hallucinations.

I believe they are ghosts, and I would point out that both Boone and Ana-Lucia have been seen after their deaths. Mr. Eko has not been seen because they actor desperately wanted to leave the show. You can call these "hallucinations" but then you are just adding another possibility, not providing any evidence that certain characters are time traveling.

Im 101% sure that neither Charlie or Christian pretended to die.








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I am still fairly uncertain of the time difference on and off the island, but there is a possibility I would like to explore.

I know the time difference in Faraday's experiment was like 30 minutes or something - but off the island wasn't it Christmas, and on the island it was like, a couple weeks before then?

The point I am trying to make, and the reason I ask, is that is it possible that Christian was dead - he really died, but then because of the time paradox on the island he was shifted back in time, to the point before he died, which in essence "re-animated" him on the island, which is why his corpse wasn't in the casket?

Just a thought, but there is always the possibility that the next episode (Cabin Fever) could explain how people who are dead keep showing back up in the show... i.e. the guy in the preview who said he's been dead for 12 years.